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littleedge
12-31-2009, 05:09 PM
Most of you know me as the Soldier who jumps on all your props and roofs and causes havoc where I shouldn't even be. It's all for you and your map, though. After testing so many maps, I've found many maps have similarities with where I jump on. I thought I'd make a small little guide for some of the most common problems.


Lights. As a general rule, all light props should be made nonsolid. Some of the larger ones, like that one giant pole, should not be nonsolid, but instead be playerclipped at the top. Floor lights should be nonsolid.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/ctf_snowdrift_a1300040.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/ctf_vector_test400090.jpg

Fences. The collision for security fences is a rectangle that is as wide as the poles in the fence. Make the fence nonsolid, and have a playerclip go all along it or Add the playerclip to the top, and make sure it goes over the collision mesh, thus it fully covers the poles.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/ctf_snowdrift_a1300160.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/plr_cornfield_a600100.jpg

Displacement walls. Do make sure you playerclip displacement walls that surround your map! It will require more than a single rectangular playerclip, but that's okay.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/pl_outback_rc200010.jpg

Corrugated Metal. As a general rule, make it nonsolid, especially if it's being used as detail on a building (Like on Furnace's C Tower).
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/pl_outback_rc00170.jpg

Windows. Window props have odd origins and can be tough to place. Take the time to make sure they are on the wall first, and then make them nonsolid.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/ctf_snowdrift_a1300070.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/pl_outback_rc00080.jpg

Some detail rooms. Any detail room that uses the 2Fort glass door, or has holes in it's viewing window/door should be playerclipped. Engineers can build if there is a hole in the viewing area, but a playerclip stops that.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/ctf_aburad_prison_a300130.jpg

Wall supports. Any wood beams along walls, or any brush on a wall used for details are great...but add a playerclip along that entire wall so people don't get stuck on them when running along them, or if there are non-vertical ones, so people can't jump on them.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/ctf_haarp_a1600030.jpg

Speakers. Make them nonsolid or put a triangular playerclip above them so that when I jump up there, I simply slide down it.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/ctf_snowdrift_prebeta00000.jpg

Vents. Clip the top of them.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/ctf_snowdrift_prebeta00130.jpg

Signs. Cap point signs, be it the pretty spytech ones that say Intelligence and such, or be it the wooden A, B, C ones, they should be clipped at the top or made nonsolid.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/cp_furnace_b4000020.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/plr_nightfall_a11c00210.jpg

Roofs. Many people start their alphas with flat roofs, and when they detail, they don't fix their playerclips to cover the end of the roof slant.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1490725/plr_nightfall_a11c00150.jpg

Door frames. If a doorframe is wider than the wall, playerclip it so people can't jump onto it or run into it when sidling the wall.


Instead of clipping, a trigger_push might do the job in some cases: http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=8756




Any questions, ask me. Any suggestions, go ahead. Any better pictures for these things, knock my socks off.

The Political Gamer
12-31-2009, 05:13 PM
Little could you please tag the pictures?

littleedge
12-31-2009, 05:18 PM
That goes against my religion.

But if I must...

A Boojum Snark
12-31-2009, 05:31 PM
Die TPG, die. Image tags on images larger than the default max with are HORRIBLE. You have now caused him to make the thread worse.

littleedge
12-31-2009, 07:08 PM
I'm gonna make one of important categories be img tags, others be links. When I get the time (or if somebody does them for me), I'm gonna have different pictures and crop them.

When I said it's again my religion, that's what I meant. Snark and I feel the same way when it comes to img tags.

Owlruler
01-01-2010, 07:39 AM
When I get the time (or if somebody does them for me), I'm gonna have different pictures and crop them.

*cough* (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/629787/littlepics.zip)

Ravidge
01-01-2010, 08:17 AM
Instead of clipping, a trigger_push might do the job in some cases: http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=8756

martijntje
01-01-2010, 10:02 AM
nice tutorial, indeed better with pics visible right away. Also vertical support beams also need clipping. Players walking while touching the wall will get stuck in them, like done in the tunnel to the last cp in dustbowl.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2lk441y.jpg

Numerous
01-16-2010, 02:27 AM
nice tutorial, indeed better with pics visible right away. Also vertical support beams also need clipping. Players walking while touching the wall will get stuck in them, like done in the tunnel to the last cp in dustbowl.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2lk441y.jpg

Sux2b anyone trying to hide behind the pillars.