Contest medal discussion

[The Political Gamer]

So apparently all the entries are getting metals! However, I have seen some debate over what metal should be picked.

Matt 1:
http://i53.tinypic.com/33c4yko.jpg

Matt 2:
http://i53.tinypic.com/2e6bfpe.jpg

zpq:
http://i55.tinypic.com/2uh7jpe.jpg

Ritz:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1848073/TF2%20Items/HammerTime.png
9:30 AM - Matt: Hey TPG: You should probably add a note about Ritz's hammer, that it would only work for some classes and would end up being a class-specific item



I know I am missing some so feel free to post yours.

Anyway, TF2M what should we pick?

[Asshat]

I'm a dumbass. I didn't even notice the GIANT hammer in the engies hands...

[Pc_Madness]

Ritz's hammer, but about 20 times as big with the Sledgehammer attack animation and for all classes. If you miss and hit the ground it should stun all within a 128 unit radius with alt fire being a block bullets shield. :D

Or just Ritz's hammer.

Or if it has to be a pin, Matt's 2nd one, since it has a unique look which sets it apart from the other pins in the game.

[Wilson]

http://i53.tinypic.com/33c4yko.jpg
Yeah, i want this one, i vote for Matt.

[DaBeatzProject]

Matt2 or Ritz1.

[Lord Ned]

Not trying to be mean to Ritz (And he's pretty cool for reading my mind about my next idea :p) but:

Ritz' hammer would be class specific. It wouldn't work well with some of the classes (Pyro, Heavy, Spy) and people seeing more class-specific weapons (like the L4D frying pan) would probably upset people.

[StickZer0]

Either of Matt's.

I personally think the order of best to worst goes Matt 2 > Matt 1 > Ritz > ZPQ

However, like Ned said, Ritz' wouldn't work with many classes, and therefore that's a major downside to it :/

[A Boojum Snark]

/me throws a dictionary at tpg
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metal
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/medal

[sniprpenguin]

Matt1 or Ritz. Matt2 just seems really plain, while ZPQ's cuts into the character, as shown, and is almost as plain.

[Cynick]

Matt1

[J4CK8]

I'd say Matt 1. It's much easier for me to choose over which medals I use to show off as they wont affect my gameplay whereas having to choose between wrangler or hammer...build mini-sentries or show off a hammer...

I like the idea but I can only see it fitting with the engy. Plus there's already a hammer in the game. How about getting a named item instead? Mappers Nappers Respite :D

[Draco18s]

I actually like ZPQ's.

Although Matt's is good too.

[umbratile]

zpq's is the best, because it has a nice shape. And I like simplicity.

[Tinker]

I love the little melee hammer, but the Matt1 medal looks really spiffy as well. If Valve doesn't want to add more weaponry clutter (which, er, isn't too weird), the medal is more than amazing.

[gamemaster1996]

Either two, one or the hammer.

[Icarus]

Any of them but matt2

Matt1 is pretty, and zpq's is elegant. I wouldn't mind a weapon, either.

[Lord Ned]

Any of them but matt2

Matt1 is pretty, and zpq's is elegant. I wouldn't mind a weapon, either.

Elegant? You won't see it any of the time because it'll be inside their chest constantly! D:

[drp]

a hammer. on a spring. on a head. as a hat. with jiggle bones.

[Lord Ned]

Did you say jigglebones? Consider it done.

After I agree to some new legal stuff for a certain jiggleboned item.

[sniprpenguin]

In retrospect, I'm not liking having to have so many medals (ETF2L, Duel, Hammer, Soldier, Join Date) and only be able to wear one per class, so I'd like the Hammer instead. Simply because it's a hammer and not another friggin' medal.

[Rexy]

Matt1, if this is vote or something.

[cakeman]

My pick would be Matt1 but I'd proudly wear any of them.

[The Political Gamer]

Ok it currently stands (if I have done my math right)

Matt 1: 10 votes

Matt 2: 4 Votes

zpq: 3 Votes

Ritz: 6 Votes

[StickZer0]

Sounds good to me.

[stevethepocket]

I like the look of the medal part of Matt 1, but I'd like to see it by itself and bigger like Matt 2.

[Draco18s]

BTW, did anyone notice that this thread's title is misspelled?

[yyler]

BTW, did anyone notice that this thread's title is misspelled?

See grazr's post on page one.

[Lord Ned]

I like the look of the medal part of Matt 1, but I'd like to see it by itself and bigger like Matt 2.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2e1wx37.jpg

There's also a red-teamcolored one. I'm still working on getting it to work in HLMV. :P

In retrospect, I'm not liking having to have so many medals (ETF2L, Duel, Hammer, Soldier, Join Date) and only be able to wear one per class, so I'd like the Hammer instead. Simply because it's a hammer and not another friggin' medal.

There's also a shape-recognition thing. There's only one other thing similar to this one's shape and it's got a fairly different scheme/design.

Polycount is round, ETF2L, Duel, and Joind ate are all the same rectangle.

[littleedge]

Ritz or Matt 1.

[owly-oop]

just to clarify is this something that you guys have any say into? It's going to be annoying if you guys have more unneeded hate against zpq because you took it upon yourselves to make a medal and not have it added


also ritz

[Lord Ned]

a hammer. on a spring. on a head. as a hat. with jiggle bones.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2gx4kds.jpg



just to clarify is this something that you guys have any say into? It's going to be annoying if you guys have more unneeded hate against zpq because you took it upon yourselves to make a medal and not have it added

Last I saw it was "TF2Map's Artpass Contest" and not "ZPQ's Artpass Contest", and if you check the Site Staff... ZPQ isn't Staff, and thus doesn't represent TF2Maps.

[owly-oop]

Last I saw it was "TF2Map's Artpass Contest" and not "ZPQ's Artpass Contest", and if you check the Site Staff... ZPQ isn't Staff, and thus doesn't represent TF2Maps.


it's really hard to see what you're trying to say with but i'm pretty sure it's wrong.


i don't see how an artpass contest equates to a medal and how a community member can't represent a community, even though nobody outside this community will know who the author of the medal was


point is that you guys took it upon yourselves to make medals, and i'm going to be outraged if any of you are outraged because a medal you wanted wasn't added

[Draco18s]

http://i54.tinypic.com/2gx4kds.jpg

Oh you know you should have done this instead:

http://i53.tinypic.com/2hfnfo1.png

;P

[Lord Ned]

Oh you know you should have done this instead:

http://i53.tinypic.com/2hfnfo1.png

:<
It took me longer to find the Spring modifier in Max than it did to import, strip, model and render everything else.

[Dark]

Matt 1 is hawt

[Draco18s]

:<
It took me longer to find the Spring modifier in Max than it did to import, strip, model and render everything else.

Fair, just the description reminded me of that particular 4Kids screwup of that particular show.

[Lancey]

Voting for drpepper1

[God of Rock]

Matt1 is nice, but ethier neutral or team colored

[Cerious]

I thought this was a contest for metal. I'm disappointed.

I vote: Matt1 or Ritz's hammer, as a homewrecker replacement skin. That way, nobody uses the hammer! HAHAHAHA

[Lord Ned]

Matt1 is nice, but ethier neutral or team colored

There's a team colored on Matt 1. It's just not working yet. :)

[EArkham]

Matt1, then Ritz. If this is a vote of some sort.

Kep

[MangyCarface]

I want that goddamn hammer

[A Boojum Snark]

Source has model scaling now, ya? The whole mini-sentry dealio? The Hammer could be a small onehanded alternate for the wrench or a giant two handed alt for the homewrecker.

...yeah right like valve would go to that much work :p

[Grim Tuesday]

Ritz then Matt, though I would rather see both.

I would love a weapon, since at this point, even if it was handed out to 95 people, it would probably still be more rare than a community weapon. Though, the same is true with a medal, but a big hulking HAMMER just screams "ha ha I have one and you dont"

[grazr]

I never entered this contest for a medal, but i guess it's nice to get something for my 3 months of work.

I like the Hammer because people would actually see it and be like "wtf".

Nobody sees, nor does anybody care about medals, except maybe those who have them and are obnoxious about it or feel they deserve one (in which case i think i defeated my own arguement because most TF2 players feel they deserve one). Either way, only the wearer of the medal gives a crap about the medal; thus the Hammer would appeal more to my vanity.

If you don't play engi then you're just robbing yourself of at least one-ninth of what TF2 offers a gamer. I don't accept "oh, but i don't play engi/only play X class" as a valid arguement. I find it hard to imagine that you same people would complain about recieving a golden wrench because you can only play soldier.

I'd be perfectly happy if it was just an engi weapon.

[Lord Ned]

Says Mr.My-Second-Most-Played-Class-Is-Engineer.

[stevethepocket]

http://i54.tinypic.com/2e1wx37.jpg

*badum-tish*

No, I meant just the circular part as the badge, and a little bigger than it is now. That's more or less what I pictured when they were talking about it in chat.

Also, whatever this is, the description should include "NOT awarded for being Hammer Legion Members."

[HellJumper]

I also vote for matt's medal.

[Draser]

lol, when's the next contest? o.O

(not actually expecting a reply, but im still putting it out there that i wish i had at least ENTERED the artpass contest)

[Pc_Madness]

If you don't play engi then you're just robbing yourself of at least one-ninth of what TF2 offers a gamer. I don't accept "oh, but i don't play engi/only play X class" as a valid arguement.


I don't play engie because theres always some other chump playing it, and I try and pick classes that will help the team .:p Its also one where your time and effort can quickly become pointless due to another guy changing to Engineer. Especially those jerks who put their teleporters in front of mine at spawn to steal all my teleports. :( But Engineer etiquette is a discussion for another thread. :p


Would it be possible to have the weapon for all classes, but just use the melee animation for each classes melee?

[grazr]

Says Mr.My-Second-Most-Played-Class-Is-Engineer.

Those engi stats are from when the game first came out, but what ever.

[Tinker]

Would it be possible to have the weapon for all classes, but just use the melee animation for each classes melee?

Not gonna work, look at the frying pan. Plus, it makes by far the most sense for the engineer to have it.

[Icarus]

This is hardly an official vote anyways.

Anyone can't just show up and start a vote and expect change. this isn't SPUF, I hope.

I'd be happy to get anything at all, especially since nobody said anything about a medal official till very recently.

[The Political Gamer]

Anyone who honestly think this is any official vote is crazy.

If zpq says that this is all void then so be it.

I just think its only fair for the community to be able to give its input just like they did with the polycount badge.

[EArkham]

Yeah, I don't think I'll get anything in any case since I didn't submit my entry. Unless the haystack I made for Grazr counts. I assumed this thread was just a place to weigh in on opinions... though if anyone has a bit of a pull with the Valve developers, it's the folks on these forums.

And if you DO have pull, tell them the haystack counts! XD

Kep

[re1wind]

*tf2 needs a secondary badge bone*

i vote for matt1, with only the round bit and hammer, if possible. That or the Melee hammer.

[Draco18s]

I like the Hammer because people would actually see it and be like "wtf".

Now I want the giant mallet. XD
It'd also piss off one of my friends (but hey, he had the chance to be a part of this contest and declined).

Especially those jerks who put their teleporters in front of mine at spawn to steal all my teleports. :( But Engineer etiquette is a discussion for another thread. :p

It doesn't matter who gets the teleport points, really. Two or three teles is better than one (this coming from someone who rarely plays engie anymore: one Lv3 teleporter doesn't charge fast enough for everyone to use it, even two of them have a slight delay if enough people respawn at the same time).

[Randdalf]

As far as I know, the Polycount community had an input as to what the badge should look like.

[Icarus]

We're not the polycount community. We're a completely separate entity.

It is long after our contest ended. We also didn't promise any door prizes.

[Tinker]

Neither did they.

If these models are made already, why not try? It's a minimal effort on our side now, and never shot means you always miss.

[Acumen]

Glad that after 6 pages finally someone explains what this thread is all about...
Could have been made clearer quite a bit earlier :)

[Swordz]

How about we get both the matt1 medal and the hammer? :D

[Starscre4M]

Matt 1 is pretty nice
the engineer hammer would be awesome too

[Mr. Happy]

How about we get both the matt1 medal and the hammer? :D

you are a wise man!

[HeaH]

matt1

[Draco18s]

Hammer in-game stats:

30% Less Damage
100% Chance to stun on hit

;D

[Grim Tuesday]

Hammer in-game stats:

30% Less Damage
100% Chance to stun on hit

;D

Hammer stats:
OnHit: 20% to crash game

irl, no stats for unique weapons

[A Boojum Snark]

+1% damage for every active hour in Hammer in the past two weeks.
Hammer glows with increasing amounts of energy as it builds up more bonus damage.

[Draco18s]

irl, no stats for unique weapons

Shame too. Because that thing should totally stun (it's a giant mallet!)

[Lancey]

"Bestowed upon those gifted by the gods with the ability to create new and unique worlds."

[littleedge]

+1% damage for every active hour in Hammer in the past two weeks.
Hammer glows with increasing amounts of energy as it builds up more bonus damage.

Snacks would have, like, +336% damage then.

[A Boojum Snark]

Active hours ;) We all know he just idles to fit in.

[Tinker]

I only idle to try and find unusual props.

[Draco18s]

I only idle to try and find unusual props.

Found the train in 2Fort yet?
No one believes that there's a train in 2Fort.

[yyler]

There's a train in every official map and almost every official community map, right?

[Draco18s]

There's a train in every official map and almost every official community map, right?

Probably. I haven't looked that closely at every map (though thinking about Bad Water and Hydro I can't think of where they are--and the payload cart doesn't count).

But 2Fort's is right out in the open, right there. You can walk up to it.

And no one has ever noticed it.

[J4CK8]

Probably. I haven't looked that closely at every map (though thinking about Bad Water and Hydro I can't think of where they are--and the payload cart doesn't count).

But 2Fort's is right out in the open, right there. You can walk up to it.

And no one has ever noticed it.

Badwater is to the right when leaving BLU spawn, up on the ledge. I haven't really seen a train in 2fort though that's probably becuase I don't play 2fort.

[littleedge]

Uhh. Nucleus.

[stevethepocket]

We need a thread for "Hey ever notice this before?" moments in maps. I just discovered a new room in Well the other day.

[The Political Gamer]

We need a thread for "Hey ever notice this before?" moments in maps. I just discovered a new room in Well the other day.

http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=6535

[Draco18s]

http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=6535

Those are specifically mistakes, I'm not sure "a new room" qualifies. ;)

"There are no trains in 2Fort" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_464264&v=EaPMOZRL_9o&feature=iv)

Except this train (http://i55.tinypic.com/2mws93a.jpg)

[SpiralShot]

*derail*

my 2 mann co. cents:
I like the quality of Matt 1 above all the rest.

BUT I like the thought of having a unique weapon even more. So that makes me lean towards Ritz. I play engie often enough that the class specific issue doesn't bother me, but I understand the problem... I would be disappointed if it was a Spy only weapon, since I almost never play spy.

I don't know how the weapon landscape will change with the store, but it seems to me that whatever form (if any) the contest participants are recognized with, quality should trump loadout slot. I would rather have a well executed medal than a poorly made weapon. (This is not intended as an attack/judgment on Ritz's weapon BTW) Were there any of the polycount entries that would work?

just sharing, not expecting.

[Nineaxis]

Going with Matt's medal (Matt1).

[Crash]

I like the idea of the weapon, but hopefully it could support more than just one class. I could see it fitting as a replacement to the stock weapons for a few classes, ala the frying pan.

[Untouch]

Matt's is best by far.

[Swordz]

Was it shipped with the update?

[fubarFX]

no medal in the latest update.
I guess it'll ship with the new game mode and medic polypack.

[lower111]

I don't care, because I will do not receive medal because I forgot on submit thread :( aw bad luck. Nevermind. *sniff*

[Crash]

Well this is awkard...

[SpiralShot]

indeed.

[Evang7]

Well this is awkard...

What's awkward? I haven't been following but I do find it pretty funny that they STILL haven't given these to people involved in the contest after nearly a year

[Prestige]

What's awkward? I haven't been following but I do find it pretty funny that they STILL haven't given these to people involved in the contest after nearly a year

they added medals to the game for other stuff. no mapper's medallion.

[Icarus]

Has anyone tried emailing robin to see what's up?

[grazr]

I thought that was supposed to be Nine's job. He was the one liasing with Robin and some other guy (collin?).

[zpqrei]

I'd talk to Robin/Corey, but Nine said he was handling this, and that I was to stay out of it, so, yeah.

EDIT: grazr you old-man-mutant-NINJA-turtle, you.

[HellJumper]

Has anyone tried emailing robin to see what's up?

Heh. The last time I emailed valve about a very important fix to my hat (it was during that "new paint system" update which caused a terrible painting issue with dx8 users), they emailed me back saying they were busy (wtf?).

[Lord Ned]

I shot Robin an email a few days ago, no reply on it.

Doesn't surprise me. I email robin->Email goes into a black hole.

[Evang7]

I shot Robin an email a few days ago, no reply on it.

Doesn't surprise me. I email robin->Email goes into a black hole.

Sometime in May, I noticed that in spite of making a big push to make the game more accessible with new training courses, coaching and bots, the loading screen tips haven't been updated since before the Engineer Update. The most recent item mentioned in the tips is the Shiv.

Since the last batch of tips were community-submitted, I wrote some up regarding newer weapons, and sent them in too. Robin at first said he'd take a look at them, then emailed me again and told me that to cover legal issues, I had to put them in a zip file and send them through the Contribute site. I did, never got a response. I submitted a new batch after the Uber Update, same story.

I've sent Robin tons and tons of emails and never gotten a response, but that's the only instance I've ever been very disappointed about it, because I DID get a response, but after responding to THAT it fell into the gaping abyss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wzsazFNkic WHY ROBIN? WHY DON'T YOU PRINT MY LETTERS?

[Crash]

I forget where I read it now, but I do recall seeing someone posting around the time of Meet the Medic that he was going to try to get to it "next week" and he wouldn't have an excuse not to get the new medal system in then.

But yeah, Valve time.

[Jetti]

I shot Robin an email a few days ago, no reply on it.

Doesn't surprise me. I email robin->Email goes into a black hole.

I emailed him about this too, when the Comp. Medals were announced within spuf. No reply.

Also, now that the Saxxy has been released, Ritz's hammer could potentially be used. Should it be reconsidered?

[midget31394]

Want a reply from robin? CC Gabe. You ALWAYS get replys when you CC Gabe no matter who the email is for.

[grazr]

I've mentioned this before but since Valve employee emails are made more public than most private company emails they seive through a ton of shit every day (http://forums.tf2maps.net/showpost.php?p=107730&postcount=23). I cringe over some of the things people admit to personally having emailed Valve over.

Chances are if you didn't get a response it's an irrelavent topic or it's already being covered and you'll find out about it in the near future.

They can't respond to every email, especially if they get the same email 50 times a day.

[HellJumper]

I've mentioned this before but since Valve employee emails are made more public than most private company emails they seive through a ton of shit every day. I cringe over some of the things people admit to personally having emailed Valve over.

Chances are if you didn't get a response it's an irrelavent topic or it's already being covered and you'll find out about it in the near future.

They can't respond to every email, especially if they get the same email 50 times a day.

I agree with you, but it's kind of silly when you e-mail about an already in-game item that requires a bug fix (important) only for them to 1) agree to "ship your fixes in the next update" and then 2) never do anything about it.

After multiple emails later, they literally email me back saying they are busy. I understand they might be busy, but they can't ship an already fixed item along with any larger update? They have the time to ship the Cow Mangler and the bison (new game mechanics), but they can't ship an already compiled-ready-to-go item.

Seems a little odd to me.

[grazr]

I agree with you, but it's kind of silly when you e-mail about an already in-game item that requires a bug fix (important) only for them to 1) agree to "ship your fixes in the next update" and then 2) never do anything about it.

After multiple emails later, they literally email me back saying they are busy. I understand they might be busy, but they can't ship an already fixed item along with any larger update? They have the time to ship the Cow Mangler and the bison (new game mechanics), but they can't ship an already compiled-ready-to-go item.

Seems a little odd to me.

Valve tend to prioritise their work differently to how we imagine or personally view it.

We created a thread of about 30+ map aesthetic bugs such as visible nodrawn surfaces or props that don't align to walls or intersect them right through to the otherside or overlays intersecting brush seems and only being rendered on one of 2-3 of the appropriate surfaces; and basically the response we got was "the amount of effort involved in an official update is huge and we need to warrant the amount of data that is transfered by updating hundreds of thousands of clients vs the impact of the changes".

Even though they could improve the aesthetics of numerous maps at tens of locations, some more obvious than others, they still havn't updated most of them.

The last "minor" update on a map was probably when they updated 2fort for balance reasons (levelling BLU's sniper fence so it couldn't be looked under and RED's blast door so it couldn't be jumped over when a dispenser was blocking it). I appreciate that they should be able to do this on already planned updates (and i agree) but it must simply just not rate high on their priorities. 2fort had way more problems than just those 2, like the tiny sign in the hallway to the battlements trapping players similarly to a cloaked spy.

[HellJumper]

^ Again, I agree. But as I said before, they actually sent me an email saying they would fix it in the next update (this happened 1 month ago). If they didn't really think they were going to get around to it, they should have just not bothered emailing me back at all-- but then again, perhaps it was to shut me up.

Also, a simple model fix is nothing compared to a map fix. You have to force everyone to re-download an entire map rather than just a simple model.

[honeymustard]

Want a reply from robin? CC Gabe. You ALWAYS get replys when you CC Gabe no matter who the email is for.

Yeah that didn't work..

[gamemaster1996]

I'm not even getting any of this (as far as I know) and I still really wish they'd remember this.

[Schrikvis]

Matt 1.
It looks kinda like existing medals and I like that.

[yyler]

lmbo

[AngryAngus]

http://blog.kevineikenberry.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/yes_logo.png

[Xi.Cynx]

If possible(and a request) are the images able to be hosted somewhere a bit better than tinypic? For some reason they just won't load in for me and I have no idea why. Possibly imgur or dropbox?

[Fr0Z3n]

what?

[A Boojum Snark]

Did you notice the date, blade? This thread and it's contents are entirely irrelevant.

[Loc_n_lol]

Did you notice the date, blade?

Feels like yesterday :rolleyes: