View Full Version : So let's say I want to make an Attack/Defend map...
taotd
05-03-2008, 06:34 PM
...with each stage a different game. Like say, what if Dustbowl stg.1 was a CP map, but stg.2 was a CTF (I've done a 1-sided CTF map before), and stg.3 was a Payload.
What would I have to do to tell the game that the rules are different for each round?
Foreverkul
05-03-2008, 06:44 PM
Hm, I dunno if thats possible. I don't think you can change the game type in game. I could do a bit of testing.
Demitri Omni
05-03-2008, 07:11 PM
I think it would be possible if you set up the rounds properly.
Foreverkul
05-03-2008, 07:17 PM
Tested:
1 capture point and a flag and 2 rounds
Result:
Possible - But flag HUD will not show up (might be fixable)
Used:
1 CP+area, 1 cp master, 2 cp rounds, 1 flag, 1 flag capzone
Cpature Point was first round second round is flag. (Haven't tested reverse)
I didn't test payload considering 1) I haven't tried to make one 2) It seems too much extra work for a test, however its theoretically possible, except the HUD is unkown
Foreverkul
05-03-2008, 07:35 PM
Update:
When tried in the reverse (flag first then cap point) it doesn't work at all because capturing the flag 3 times ends the whole match (giving the winning team a point) and resets the game, ignoring any other rounds. Flag HUD still doesn't show.
Pseudo
05-03-2008, 07:44 PM
You can have multiple game objectives in one map. But you cannot have multiple game-type HUDs in one map.
If you have a team_control_point_master in your map (needed for the CP and payload HUDs), you cannot have the flag HUD. If you have a team_train_watcher (needed for the payload HUD) in your map, you cannot have the normal control point HUD. Having some entities start disabled doesn't work either.
It would be possible to have a map with all three gametypes if it always had the CP layout HUD.
Foreverkul
05-03-2008, 07:48 PM
You can have multiple game objectives in one map. But you cannot have multiple game-type HUDs in one map.
If you have a team_control_point_master in your map (needed for the CP and payload HUDs), you cannot have the flag HUD. If you have a team_train_watcher (needed for the payload HUD) in your map, you cannot have the normal control point HUD. Having some entities start disabled doesn't work either.
It would be possible to have a map with all three gametypes if it always had the CP layout HUD.
Yea, I would suggest using CP HUD since it is able to display the information better. But it will lack the flag points. This is why I would like not only interchangeable HUDs but customizable HUDs.
taotd
05-03-2008, 08:30 PM
that's sort of what I was thinking too, using Start Disabled. But since that doesn't work....
Then again, I suppose we don't really need a HUD for the Payload map, as the Cart moves along a fixed track and players don't really need to look at it to find it's location. In fact, the only thing I can imagine that you'd need the PL HUD for is seeing how many BLUs are around it.
Maps like 2Fort and ctfWell- now I don't know about you guys, but I never look at the HUD to see where the intel is. I usually just ask whoever dropped it where it is.
The only HUD I can think of that I've ever found vital to gameplay was CP, as it tells you how close a point is to being capped. So I think that's prolly what I sould stick with if one HUD is to fit them all.
Of course, you can still disable the CTF and PL HUDs, right?
Foreverkul
05-03-2008, 10:04 PM
that's sort of what I was thinking too, using Start Disabled. But since that doesn't work....
Then again, I suppose we don't really need a HUD for the Payload map, as the Cart moves along a fixed track and players don't really need to look at it to find it's location. In fact, the only thing I can imagine that you'd need the PL HUD for is seeing how many BLUs are around it.
Maps like 2Fort and ctfWell- now I don't know about you guys, but I never look at the HUD to see where the intel is. I usually just ask whoever dropped it where it is.
The only HUD I can think of that I've ever found vital to gameplay was CP, as it tells you how close a point is to being capped. So I think that's prolly what I sould stick with if one HUD is to fit them all.
Of course, you can still disable the CTF and PL HUDs, right?
Normal CP will tell you how many people on at the cart I think. Not sure though.
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