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			<title>Beware of loading demos from Steam</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:46:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[1  « Message by you on Wed, 18th Nov 2009 2:16 am » 
Hello, 
 
I've uninstalled l4d2 demo, but I still see it in my games list and under my games in...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>1  « Message by you on Wed, 18th Nov 2009 2:16 am »<br />
Hello,<br />
<br />
I've uninstalled l4d2 demo, but I still see it in my games list and under my games in steam community. I don't want it to be there as it's not a paid game. Please do not promote your games so aggressively.<br />
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2 « Message by Nate on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 5:02 am »<br />
Hello &lt;my name&gt;,<br />
<br />
Thank you for contacting Steam Support.<br />
<br />
I'm sorry, but we are unable to remove the demo from your account, however, once the demo is made no longer available, it will be removed from your account.<br />
<br />
If you have any further questions, please let us know - we will be happy to assist you.<br />
<br />
3 « Message by you on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 6:35 am »<br />
When it'll be unavailable?<br />
<br />
4 « Message by Nate on Fri, 20th Nov 2009 5:08 pm »<br />
Hello &lt;my name&gt;,<br />
<br />
Unfortunately we are unable to release the date when the demo will be made unavailable.<br />
<br />
Please refer to the Steam News section for the latest information on upcoming Steam titles and content.<br />
<br />
Steam News<br />
<a href="http://store.steampowered.com/news/" target="_blank">http://store.steampowered.com/news/</a><br />
<br />
Your patience is appreciated.<br />
<br />
If you have any further questions, please let us know - we will be happy to assist you.</div>

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			<dc:creator>FaTony</dc:creator>
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			<title>Windows server will not work</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:16:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I have installed windows server (as tf2 dedicated wouldn't work) and when i go to run the srcds im getting this error 
 
Image:...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have installed windows server (as tf2 dedicated wouldn't work) and when i go to run the srcds im getting this error<br />
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Can anyone help me with this?</div>

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			<dc:creator>gamemaster1996</dc:creator>
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			<title>Texture sky_Alpine_evening_01</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:56:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>actually like what i said.. on my previously comment. That a alpine evening would be amazing. Actually there is just one part of it. Actually...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>actually like what i said.. on my previously comment. That a alpine evening would be amazing. Actually there is just one part of it. Actually undermaking</div>

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			<dc:creator>ricardojvc6</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[[Request] Christmas Stuff!]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:07:02 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi Guys, im looking for a group of sandbags, at about waist heigh (in game obv), so you have to jump crouch to get over them, and also a banner that...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi Guys, im looking for a group of sandbags, at about waist heigh (in game obv), so you have to jump crouch to get over them, and also a banner that says Merry Christmas in a festive font that will stretch from two buildings.<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
<br />
Dracky</div>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:06:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi Guys, im looking for a group of sandbags, at about waist heigh (in game obv), so you have to jump crouch to get over them, and also a banner that...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi Guys, im looking for a group of sandbags, at about waist heigh (in game obv), so you have to jump crouch to get over them, and also a banner that says Merry Christmas in a festive font that will stretch from two buildings.<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
<br />
Dracky</div>

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			<dc:creator>Dracky</dc:creator>
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			<title>TF2 live action short</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:22:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Came across this on twitter: 
 
YouTube- Team Fortress 2 Short</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Came across this on twitter:<br />
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			<title>sandbags</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:10:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hey guys, im looking for someone that can make a midwaist kinda heigh sandbag with snow on top. Thanks alot 
 
Dracky</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey guys, im looking for someone that can make a midwaist kinda heigh sandbag with snow on top. Thanks alot<br />
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Dracky</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[[Request] Office Supplies]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:03:56 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm trying to fill out the front office for a map, and I'm finding the standard options painfully limited. I'm looking for things that could be found...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm trying to fill out the front office for a map, and I'm finding the standard options painfully limited. I'm looking for things that could be found in an office, such as the following:<br />
<ul><li>Cups filled with pens and pencils</li>
<li>'To Do' and 'Outgoing' trays (could be multiple skins here)</li>
<li>Wire racks filled with manila folders</li>
<li>Pen holders with pens, such as you find at a bank</li>
<li>Filing cabinets (vertical, lateral, tall and short)</li>
<li>Mimeograph machines</li>
<li>Alternate desks</li>
<li>Bookshelves in various degrees of full</li>
<li>Desk fan</li>
<li>Desk calendars</li>
<li>'Next window' signs</li>
<li>Banker's boxes</li>
<li>Clipboards with stacks of paper on them</li>
<li>Overlays of various forms and/or documents</li>
<li>Typewriters</li>
<li>Staplers (Red Swingline optional)</li>
<li>Wall maps showing airline/shipping routes &amp; hubs</li>
</ul><br />
Anything and everything that could be used to fill out space and fill up the room would be useful. I'd imagine these would be useful for a good deal of other maps as well.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Stormcaller3801</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Ian Boswell's map reviews]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:14:59 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[ianboswell's review on some of the maps: 
 
YouTube- TF2 - PLR/A&D CTF Contest - Ctf_Vector Review 
YouTube- TF2 - PLR/A&D CTF Contest - PLR_Scoville...]]></description>
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He obviously isn't much in the TF2 universe but he sees things from a whole new perspective, which is very good for us mappers.</div>

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			<category domain="http://forums.tf2maps.net/forumdisplay.php?f=25">TF2Maps.net  Mapping Contests</category>
			<dc:creator>Fearlezz</dc:creator>
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			<title>So I have this cave...</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:32:50 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Or at least, that's the result I'm going for. I want to make these walls, floor, and ceiling look nice and rocky, and from what I've seen using a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Or at least, that's the result I'm going for. I want to make these walls, floor, and ceiling look nice and rocky, and from what I've seen using a displacement is one of the best ways to do this. <br />
<img src="http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6449/cavea.jpg" border="0" alt="" onload="NcodeImageResizer.createOn(this);" /><br />
However I have two questions:<br />
1.) Would it be good to use them in such a small area?<br />
2a.) If so, how should I set up the faces so that everything sews together nicely?<br />
2b.) If not, how else could I accomplish this rocky effect?<br />
<br />
Just so you know whats going on in the picture: The right path turns left and them makes a U-turn to the right, like a reverse question mark, all while sloping upwards. The path to the left drops down under the first path, opening up into a large room, which exits to a place just under where the first path does.</div>

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			<dc:creator>.fortune</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[I'm not a mind reader, psychic, OR fortuneteller.]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:22:23 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[---Quote--- 
men&#8901;tal&#8901;ist 
–noun 
1.	a person who believes in or advocates mentalism. 
2.	a person who believes that the mind and its functions are a...]]></description>
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				men&#8901;tal&#8901;ist<br />
–noun<br />
1.	a person who believes in or advocates mentalism.<br />
2.	a person who believes that the mind and its functions are a legitimate area of psychological research.<br />
3.	a mind reader, psychic, or fortuneteller.
			
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</div>...Not that any of those things really apply to me. :glare:<br />
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I'm Mentalist, or The Mentalist, or Tom, whatever you prefer. I'm fifteen years old, hopefully that won't be too much of an issue.<br />
I'm okay at TF2, I'm not really great at it (I have my good and bad moments I suppose) but I do enjoy playing it.<br />
<br />
Hammer-wise, I love mapping. Again, not great at it, but I've been told I have potential. Hopefully I'll soak up some techniques people use. <br />
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And I find Demoman an interesting class.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Scary thought 'bout halloween]]></title>
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			<description>Specifically, jack-o-lanterns. 
It occuurred to me, that we replicate human heads by carving in the equivalent of a face, then cutting open the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Specifically, jack-o-lanterns.<br />
It occuurred to me, that we replicate human heads by carving in the equivalent of a face, then cutting open the equivalent of a scalp, pulling out the equivalent of <b>brains</b> with a spoon, and putting in a candle.<br />
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Taking out the equivalent of brains, to attempt to replicate a human head. Strangely enough though, halloween (and jack-o-lanterns) is generally more often done in america. The US.<br />
'nuff said.</div>

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			<description><![CDATA[Gobble? 
Oh well Before i get eaten  
I've Made this map after playing Gravel Pit and Furnace and other 3cp maps i can't think of (sorry).  
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Gobble?<br />
Oh well Before i get eaten <br />
I've Made this map after playing Gravel Pit and Furnace and other 3cp maps i can't think of (sorry). <br />
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:woot: Turkey!!!!</div>

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			<dc:creator>Casanova</dc:creator>
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			<title>max number of allowed control points?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:53:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I posted a couple of times before about my map not working, where everyone was spawning inside of one info_player_teamspawn. I finally figured out...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I posted a couple of times before about my map not working, where everyone was spawning inside of one info_player_teamspawn. I finally figured out that something is going wrong with my team_control_point_master entity, since deleting it fixes all my problems (but renders the CPs useless, and we can't have that).<br />
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I'm building my map with six control points, and I'm wondering if that is what's causing the problem, since TF2 seems to have an issue with the point icons at the bottom of the screen not stacking properly. Does anyone know of a workaround for this or anything? I'd really rather not have to delete one of my control points, as it would ruin the layout of the map entirely. Thanks!</div>

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			<title>ARENA Scientific</title>
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			<description>Hi, 
 
I had this idea for an arena map in my head for a long time. It basically combines an idea I had of a building with a cp in the basement and...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
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I had this idea for an arena map in my head for a long time. It basically combines an idea I had of a building with a cp in the basement and combines it with a good amount of inspiration from one of the best arena maps yet (lumberyard).<br />
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The design idea is a secret underground base in a strategically important canyon, that both teams want to control.<br />
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<b>Features:</b><br />
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-Spawns integrated into playable area. <br />
As of now, arena maps usualy have their spawns seperated from the map itself. The only official map that does this a little bit is sawmill (and that only after an update to it). I did this too to a bigger extent in the recent versions of my other arena map (production). It increases the pacing of the map, but leaves staying at your spawn as a bit more viable and less frowned upon tactic (demos camping in spawn is viable, but they do get flamed because people see it as lame)<br />
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-Control point with health pack opens after 60 seconds<br />
This is the main idea I got from lumberyard. But contrary to lumberyard, you cannot enter the cp room before the timer. The room itself connects all the rooms inside the building and also contains a medium healthpack, to give additional value to the point.<br />
Ammo is mostly outside, to give it some more value.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
I currently have some concerns, mainly the complexity. I don't think the layout is really that complex, but someone might still get lost on his/her first way through it. People also might be able to hide fairly well or not meet each other, but that is solved through the cp itself I think. <br />
And it might be too narrow, especially the cp and the 2 rooms next to it. Heavies camping down there and pyros might be awfully strong.</div>

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