KotH trainyard

This is my first map ever, so I'm learning as I go along.

Feedback/tips are welcomed and appreciated.

06-23-2012, 07:54 PM

Don't carve! I have to go to work RIGHT NOW but someone please help him to not carve. I can see the carving! ACK!!

Warjunkie · 06-23-2012, 08:00 PM

It's really that bad?

I found the arch tool, but it seems like a lot of work to pull the vertexes around into the shape of a wall. I can't think of any other way to do it.

Micnax · 06-23-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yyler

Don't carve! I have to go to work RIGHT NOW but someone please help him to not carve. I can see the carving! ACK!!

If you want to make arches, change the block field to arch in the Primitives category menu and use the settings there. You can also edit vertices with the Vertex Edit Tool (

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Warjunkie · 06-23-2012, 08:08 PM

Working on it now, but why is it better as opposed to carving?

Aside from crashing hammer :l

Micnax · 06-23-2012, 08:13 PM

Carving can create a lot of off-grid and invalid brushes in your map, especially microscopic ones (which can cause havok if you try sealing the map with one!)

You should never really use it at all unless you're cutting a very simple, on-grid and large square out of a very simple shape, but then they that's much easier to do with the vertex tool.

Warjunkie · 06-23-2012, 08:26 PM

That was so much harder. I guess it cleaned my views up a bit though.

I carved the steps in my stairs as well. http://i.imgur.com/P7pfX.png Does that look fine? Also how do I get those wall textures to line up? xD

Crash · 06-23-2012, 08:36 PM

You don't want to seal your map that way.

Check out the top of this page here.

Amidio · 06-23-2012, 08:50 PM

You should func_detail those arches and stairs for optimization purposes. Select the brushes and hit ctrl+t. Read more on that here: http://www.optimization.interlopers....er=func_detail
In fact, I would recommend reading all of that. It is very important your map runs well.

Also. It seems very small, and enemies can see each other out of spawn. Reminds me more of a trade map than a competitive map.

Warjunkie · 06-23-2012, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amidio

You should func_detail those arches and stairs for optimization purposes. Select the brushes and hit ctrl+t. Read more on that here: http://www.optimization.interlopers....er=func_detail
In fact, I would recommend reading all of that. It is very important your map runs well.

Also. It seems very small, and enemies can see each other out of spawn. Reminds me more of a trade map than a competitive map.

Not done with the layout yet. I'm going to have something on the side opposite the stairs. I just saw how big the game's train models are as well, so I definitely have to pull everything back farther. Stairs are going to lead up to a room overlooking the hill, which I hope creates a tactical vantage point. Trains and tracks in the middle obstructing the view you mentioned.

Putting a little more thought into this than what I'm showing right now ^^