KotH Rundown

Map by:
Joseph "Fr0z3n" Radak

Thought of this map on my way home from college. Designed it and then made it in ~1 day.

Due to recent budget cuts, both sides have to reopen their once abandoned sawmills to get back into the swing of the hardwood business. Unfortunately they reopen the same mill and are on dispute of who holds the main building. Rundown takes place in the middle of this "arguement"

Thanks to the following people for their assets!
Construction Pack contributors
Swamp Pack Contributors
Bulletcrop contributors
Rexy: Forklift
Loc_n_Lol: Hacked dumptruck-turned-flatbed
Godslayer: Beware Tree Ninjas sign

Here is a very dark, roughly made replay of a run through of the map: To crappy flythrough!

As always, I have this on ALL my maps: If any of my maps go official , I will donate half of my stamp money to the Childs Play Charity. Its a great charity doing a lot with the gamers everywhere.

No Editing of this map without permission to the author, please. Either post here or email me at the above email.

grazr · 12-18-2010, 06:53 PM

Looks like it should be wider, to provide more varied and interesting gameplay.

Fr0Z3n · 12-18-2010, 06:54 PM

Beat me to it grazr. Yea, I forgot to add to the post that I wanted to know if it was too small.

Alright, I will look into adding something to make it wider and more... interesting.

Fr0Z3n · 12-18-2010, 08:46 PM

Alrighty, download is up. added a small 2 story building to the sides for easy circular moving around the map, built cubemaps, did some optimization (used area portals for the first time

) and did some overall awesome things.

Edit: Posted for gameday

Fr0Z3n · 12-19-2010, 01:48 PM

I'll be adding some health (small) to the balconies around the center point, and will be shifting the under-building tunnel over for optimization issues.

Is there anything else that people wish to give feedback on?

If not. a2 will be coming out tonight.

Fr0Z3n · 12-19-2010, 05:18 PM

Updated to a2:

I just modified things based on the feedback I received during gameday this afternoon. That includes adding some health and ammo on the balcony's around the center point to allow for anti-camping fighting. I adjusted the tunnel beneath the main point/building for optimization reasons, and as a cosmetic thing I adjusted the textures so that they line up.

Don't think I can put this up for weds. gameday, but if there is a low turn-out I may anyways.

Since it looks like the layout is okay and the feedback I'm getting is minor, I'm going to start doing low-level detailing. Honestly, I'd hate to push this into a beta really soon (because I don't think its ready) but if its fine, I will.

Fr0Z3n · 12-23-2010, 10:05 AM

Updated to a3, changed the center point a ton (looking for feedback on that).

I've decided to start moving towards an abandoned alpine theme, so hopefully I'll start working with that.

Thanks to those who put up with my nooby questions and helped me get some of the issues I had fixed/gave me some solid feedback.

absurdistof · 12-23-2010, 06:19 PM

So I mentioned this in the game, but I'll post it here just so you can come back to it

I felt that the gravel trucks on either side of the map could use two-way wooden ramps so that players could run up and over them (try putting the ramps against walls so that players don't fall off either side) without having to go through the white middle flank buildings.

The white middle flank buildings need more space. They're pretty cramped and it gives pyros and explosive classes a big bonus. It also just makes the room spammy, so most players die soon, and that's never fun if you've got one life per round. I suggest expanding the rooms outward on the upper level so that there's something of a room between the stairs (384x348 box between them or something). Also, may I suggest expanding the walkways in front of the stairs to 256 units wide each, and maybe connecting the upper level to something, like the gravel truck. I feel like giving players more options in there would make it a much more favorable area.

Fr0Z3n · 12-23-2010, 07:53 PM

Thanks Absurdistof for posting that.

I'm doing the side buildings now, along with the ramps. I was going to look for a better window model and use that for the upper level, just to make it so you can easily jump out of the upper part if your being chased.

I'm trying to figure out the best way to deal with the pyro's dominance on the map... I'm toying with the idea of replacing the 2 large towers in the corners with something to combat that, possibly part of a river or something. I'll figure that out as I go along. I'm dealing with the side buildings first...

Fr0Z3n · 12-24-2010, 02:02 PM

Alright, a4 up.

This modified the side buildings a bit, and added that 2 way ramp that Absurd asked for.

I'm still trying to figure out how to deal with pyros. I could flood the basement beneath the cap point, but then that just makes that a maybe-not-so-viable route around. I'm hoping that the fact that there is some wide open spaces will make it less likely for pyro's to dominate... if this isn't the case, then I'm going to be looking into something alpine-ish to add to make it so that you can extinguish yourself.

Any feedback from career pyro's would be great and well appreciated.

happy/merry christmas/festivus/hannukah (i know thats late)/Kwanzaa/solstice/birthday whatever, just enjoy the day